Avalanche 7, Blackhawks 5

When the Blackhawks find themselves in a dogfight for points in March, you can look back to this game as a time when they pissed away one point at the least.  With less than three minutes left in regulation, the Hawks were winning 5-4. 

Three minutes later, three Colorado goals later, the Hawks found themselves on the outside looking in.

Puke.

Thoughts

You really hate to say the game turned on one simple play but it may have.  Just prior to Tomas Fleischmann tying the game at 5, Jake Dowell ripped a shot off the post.  Fleischmann then took puck down to the other end and tied the game.  Not exactly shades of Bobby Hull and Jacques Lemaire in the ’71 Finals but still the margin of no points and two was probably a couple of inches.

So I guess that’s how you ‘bail’ out your teammates.  After Marty Turco was lifted and Corey Crawford made a fairly big save early, the Hawk beat writers took to the Twitter war path to slam Turco for not making point blank saves after Hawk defensive miscues. 

In the end, it was all in vain because the same thing that ended Turco’s night early eventually ruined Crawford’s as well.  Crawford let in a questionable goal to tie the game when a 54 foot wrist from Tomas Fleischmann snuck past him.  Then Brent Seabrook and Duncan Keith couldn’t get out of their own way en route to Matt Duchene’s game-winner. 

But, don’t let that stop anyone from blaming Turco. 

I understand he was less than stellar, the second goal was just plain bad…but Craig Anderson was equally awful.  And in the end, Corey Crawford was only a little better and that wasn’t enough.

–Is it just me or does Niklas Hjalmarsson look a full step slower this year?  He was never Viktor Stalberg but he also never had a piano fully attached to his back either.  It’s not like he’s hitting his 30’s either; the guy isn’ t even 24. 

Several times tonight, Hjalmarsson was caught in between with Avalanche players behind the Hawks net.  With a decision to either commit to the man or deny the pass, Hjalmarsson just kind of stood at the post.  So the Avalanche carved him up with passes to the man in the high slot.  Add in the fact that Hawks forwards didn’t do a great job of converging down low and it was a recipe for all sorts of problems.

Going into the season, I was a bit concerned that he’d still be worth two high draft picks at the end of this year and now, I’m downright frightened.

–On the bright side, Troy Brouwer is binging.  7 goals in 11 games is a real easy way to get out of Joel Quenneville’s outhouse.

–Jake Dowell is really starting to grow on me.  It’s really a wonder how or why (and I suppose a bit concerning) the Hawks thought Colin Fraser was a better option than him the last couple years.  In a game where the majority of the Hawks best players were a minus, Dowell was an even 0 in 17 minutes of ice time.

–This is the bottom, right?  It can’t get much worse than this.  In a game where the Hawks had no business getting a point, they were three minutes away from getting two, then in the blink of an eye, they had none.  The world is, indeed, cruel.

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40 Responses to Avalanche 7, Blackhawks 5

  1. Cam says:

    At this point, what’s the difference? Who wants to squeak in and get clobbered by the Red Wings?

    Be better off tanking, getting a quality prospect in the draft and dumping the dead weight off the roster.

    Gotta re-sign Seabrook as well and at this point, he should probably take any deal he can get.

  2. John says:

    Cam, as the resident pessimist, you must be loving this.

    It’s not like last year’s Eastern Conference champion snuck into the playoffs on the final game of the season or that they beat two teams significantly better than them in the regular season. Or that the 8th seed knocked out the first seed and then third before bowing out to the 7th seed. Screw it, let’s take $60 million of payroll and flush it clean down the toilet because the Wings are far superior in December.

  3. Cam says:

    Yeah, I’m thrilled. Don’t be idiotic. And that includes comparing last year’s East with this year’s West. The West is stacked. The East is lousy.

    And which goalie is going to pull a Halak and stop 318 of 331 shots to topple the Wings and another high seed?

    Check the stats. This team stinks at even strength, the most important part of the game. Last year they were great, which is why it was obvious they were legit if they could get decent goaltending.

  4. Dale Halas says:

    Thing about that 60 million figure, the Hawks used a 4 million bonus cushion last year that they are paying for for this year. That is an 8 million difference between last years team and this year.

    Couple that with the current injuries and there is 20 million sitting on the sidelines right now. Last year, two injuries to forwards meant Fraser and Burrish got to play. This year it means Scott and Hendry are forwards.

    This is much more of a survival year. Any kind of injuries and the team on the ice really isn’t a playoff caliber group. They just need to survive right now and save cap space. That will allow them to be able to bring up a couple more true prospects for the second half of the year.

  5. Francis Roberts says:

    Wow, this was the type of game that had you drinking heavily by the end of the first period. The shame is that this could have been one of those classic “bad game wins” that every successful team needs during the course of the year. If you had told me that the Hawks would play horseshit defense, get bad goaltending, have Sharp and Toews get no goals and still be up 5-4 with three minutes to go I would have said you were crazy. I think Q and Stan have to start making some basic decsions. I like a good fight as much as the next guy, but how can you justify dressing Scott when you are playing one of the fastest teams in the division at high altitude, and your team is riddlled with injuries? Why is this guy even on the roster when the team desparately needs cap space? If you don’t trust Hendry to play more than 8 minutes a game (out of position BTW) why is he on the roster? Same for Potulny. The Hawks looked totally gassed in the third period last night, mostly becasue Q kept trotting out the same guys shift after shift.

  6. John says:

    Just for comparison’s sake and because I love how hindsight is 20/20 in instances like this…last year’s Eastern Conference featured the defending Stanley Cup Champs, the President’s Trophy winner, New Jersey(before Kovalchuk became the anti-Christ), and Boston (the #1 seed from a year before with essentially the same team). Along with a team in Philadelphia who was expected to be at the top of the conference but underachieved until Feburary. Wow, that reeks of lousiness. How dare the NHL even allow them to play against the champion from the Western Conference.

    No one expected Halak to stop 318 shots and no one expected Jonas Hiller the year before. That’s the amazing thing about playoff hockey; nobody has any idea what’s going to happen even if there’s some who think they do.

    As for this year’s West, right now there’s Detroit, Vancouver, and a blob of teams. S-T-A-C-K-E-D.

  7. CT says:

    I’d amend that to “Detroit and a blob of teams”.

  8. Francis Roberts says:

    You make a great point, John. I think that we all got spoiled by the Hawk’s regular season run last year, but the goal really is just to make it to the playoffs (hopefully with your team in decent health), and then all bets are off. It’s all about playing your best hockey in the Spring. The Hawks have a long way to go to achieve that level of play, but let’s see how they progress.

  9. Dave Morris says:

    For those who persist in believing the West is better than the East, a look at the standings might adjust their perspective. Out of the top 10 overall right now, seven are Eastern clubs.

    So the Blackhawks, without three starters, including two of their top players, are, in December, among the pack of nine Western clubs fighting for what will eventually be five playoff berths (after the Division leaders).

    That said, they’re 6-3-1 in their last 10, and they’ve gone 1-1-1 without Hossa and Kane.

    And they lost to the highest scoring team in the NHL last night, in the last few minutes.

    No one is blameless, but there you are.

    Meanwhile, Marty Turco is considering an attractive offer from a new league in Dubai.

    BTW the ‘Mighty’ Wings, who got carpetbombed at home last night by the Kings, have lost 4 of 6, three of those in their own barn.

    It’s a wacky season. Enjoy.

  10. Otter says:

    The Hawks Defense continues to be somewhere between horrible and brutal. It starts and ends there really. The third Avs goal was totally inexplicable and unexceptionable as four Hawks just stood around doing nothing. The Avs fourth goal totally inexplicable and unexceptionable as Seabrook seemed to be playing for the Avs. There aren’t many goalies in the NHL who can bail out a team that has been playing so poorly on defense. That said… who wants to start the Vokoun rumors?!?!?!?!

    As for the East vs West… I think the West is better from top to bottom, but the Pens, Bruins, Caps, and Flyers (and probably Habs) can all easily win the Cup. The West has the Wings, ‘Nucks, and Kings as far as I can tell… maybe the Hawks and Sharks if either team pulls their heads out of their asses.

  11. Otter says:

    The West teams are going to beat the crap out of each other… other than the Oilers and Flames is their even an easy team in the West? The East has Florida, the Leafs, Sabers, Devils, Isles, and Sens to beat up on.

  12. Patrick says:

    I went through a lot of emotions last night, and I ended up crying, with a bottle of Jack in front of me. Okay, not really.

    Damn – someone has to stop the game-tying and go-ahead goals. So many ways to play it and the Hawks picked the matador defense (as soon as Seabrook did the weak reverse around the boards, I thought, this is going to hurt… and it did.

    I still love this team though. What does that make me?

  13. John says:

    Where people make the mistake is they assume since the East has recognizably crappier teams at the bottom, their top teams are somehow second-class. Maybe we can all chip in and buy them the Center Ice Package or a new tv to help clear the confusion. Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are probably the two best teams in the league right now.

    I think with the West people see everyone so close in the standings and assume it’s ultra-competitive. Well, the reason for that is there’s a whole lot of mediocrity. Let’s see how it all looks in a few months.

    Besides, if Cam had his way, he’d cancel the rest of the season and annoint Detroit the champs of the West. What’s the point of playing out the rest of the season if everyone’s just going to get the crap kicked out of them by the Wings?

  14. Marts says:

    That loss was like someone pissing in your corn flakes. That being said, I would still rather be a team trying to figure out its defensive shortcomings than one trying to figure out how to score. The Hawks position is fixable, trying to eake out 2-1 wins all season is much more precarious IMO…

  15. Cam says:

    “because I love how hindsight is 20/20 in instances like this”

    No hindsight whatsoever. The East was lousy last year. Jersey was a fraud and Boston was no more than decent. The Bruins weren’t the ’08-’09 version. There were two really quality teams in Pittsburgh and Washington, and of those, one had mediocre goaltending, and the other was a bit depleted from its Cup roster.

    *

    “No one expected Halak to stop 318 shots and no one expected Jonas Hiller the year before.”

    Hiller’s performance should’ve surprised no-one. Halak’s was amazing but not completely shocking. Does anyone on the planet think Turco or Crawford can cover their team’s defensive deficiencies like that? Last night was a good opportunity to show it.

  16. Cam says:

    “Besides, if Cam had his way, he’d cancel the rest of the season and annoint Detroit the champs of the West. What’s the point of playing out the rest of the season if everyone’s just going to get the crap kicked out of them by the Wings?”

    *

    If you’re going to disagree with me, fine. But putting theories in my mouth is a bit insulting.

    I didn’t anoint the Wings anything or claim they are unbeatable. I did, however, say they’d likely clobber the Blackhawks. Look at both teams’ 5-on-5 play and try to reach a different conclusion.

  17. John says:

    And the Flyers were trash, right? Please. I have no idea what’s a quality team in your world and quite frankly, I’m not that interested in finding out. But going by your logic, I would deduce the West has one quality team right now in Detroit. That pretty much spits in the face of your previous thought that the West is stacked. Looks to me like it’s very similar to last year’s Eastern Conference. But hey, I’m just an idiot.

    I’m sure last December and in December of ’08 you were telling everyone to watch out for Halak and Hiller in the playoffs. Hiller wasn’t even the starter at that point and Halak was still splitting the net with Carey Price.

  18. Cam says:

    “BTW the ‘Mighty’ Wings, who got carpetbombed at home last night by the Kings, have lost 4 of 6, three of those in their own barn.”

    And all the Kings had to was get a 51-save performance from their goalie to make that happen.

    Despite their recent losses, Detroit is still on pace for 115 points. They can afford to have a bad patch.

  19. Cam says:

    “And the Flyers were trash, right?”

    The Flyers were a talented team that was mediocre during the regular season. However, they were fortunate that the Canadians knocked out the two elite teams in the playoffs for them and then were out of gas themselves by the ECF’s.

    *

    “I’m sure last December and in December of ’08 you were telling everyone to watch out for Halak and Hiller in the playoffs. Hiller wasn’t even the starter at that point and Halak was still splitting the net with Carey Price.”

    Hiller had certainly shown by then that he was elite or close to it. You’re right about Halak. He had great stretches in the middle of last year, but his performances in the playoffs still couldn’t have been predicted.

    Maybe Crawford or Turco will stun me and turn in Halakesque efforts. The way the Hawks have played defense, they’re going to need it.

  20. Ban says:

    Dave Morris, you’re looking at the wrong stats if you’re basing which conference is better on overall top 10 teams in the league standings. The West is 69-36-18 against the East. So which conference is better? The 7 of top 10 teams you mentioned are higher only because the competition in the east sucks. You have a few good teams and then a bunch of cellar dwellers which the rest of the east just beats up on to rack up the points. The west is a much stronger conference. That’s why only 3 points separate teams 2-9 in the west.

    And Cam, we get it. You’re a prophet and you know how the season’s going to end. Quit with the rants already.

  21. Cam says:

    “Quit with the rants already.” – Ban

    Rants? I made one comment. Everything else has been in response to others’ criticism of that comment.

    And you don’t get it since I never claimed to know how the season was going to end, only that the Hawks stand little chance in a playoff matchup with the Wings, which is the likely matchup if the Hawks make it.

  22. LMS says:

    No Cam, you don’t get it. Every comment you make is the most pervasively negative, Hawks suck, they will be lucky if the make the playoffs so why bother they are going to lose drivel. Get some new material. Frankly, you bore the heck out of all of us.

    Hawks are having a tough year. Deal with it. We won the Cup, we are injured and depleted, and we are stocked for years to come. Yeah, i’ll take an off year for a the next 10. As will most of the true fans out here and we won’t bitch about how sucky they are.

    Maybe you should just take the offer from the Sedin Sisters and start your local chapter of their fan club. God knows you aren’t committed to the Hawks.

  23. dominator says:

    See what hapens when we don’t have Walking Dead to talk about 😦

  24. Marts says:

    Thank you LMS. For Christ’s sake guys we WON THE CUP.

    Am I one of the few that has spent 10 minutes of every hour for 3 months relishing in that fact? Or one of the few that still day dreams of it. Yes, I want THIS team to do well, but it’s amazing how a cup can temper your emotions. Please don’t read this as, “I’m ok if we miss the playoff yada-yada-yada…”. But lets take realistic stock in where we area. Missing two top players like no other team, large roster turnover, cup hang-over, bulls-eye on back every night, 35 points and (last I checked) right in the mix. I’ll take it.

  25. LMS says:

    No you’re not Marts. Many of us do too. AC, Big Tony, Most real Hawk Fans

  26. CT says:

    I don’t think there’s anything particularly “negative” in Cam’s assessment. If the Hawks as currently comprised squeaked into the playoffs tomorrow and had to matchup with this current Red Wings squad it would probably be ugly.

    However, if the season ended today…well, we’d all be real surprised. There’s a long damn way to go, and with a trade deadline between now and the end of the season there’s no telling what the makeup of the teams will be come April. Hopefully Kane, Hossa and Bolland will be back in the lineup. Maybe the injury bug will catch the Red Wings again later in the season. Nobody knows.

    What am I trying to say here?

    Let’s just see how this all plays out.

  27. Cam says:

    Hey LMS, thanks for the kind words. It’s always nice to be told you’re not a real fan. True fans make excuses about injuries. The Hawks have been healthier than many teams this year and have not been as crippled as they were last year. Nor have they been weighed down by Huet in net. But don’t let those facts inhibit you.

    Since you’re apparently incapable of skipping past the posts of people you dislike, I’ll try harder to be more fluffy and phony in my assessments.

  28. LMS says:

    Kind of hard to dislike someone you don’t know but hey if you think challenging your opinion and calling out negativity is that, then so be it. Kinda of hard to skip past every other post… Kind words, that was really mild. Hell, the moderator called you the resident pessimist. Maybe I am missing the theme. Even the endless rant about the enforcer is better.

    Allow myself to quote myself
    “No Cam, you don’t get it. Every comment you make is the most pervasively negative, Hawks suck, they will be lucky if the make the playoffs so why bother they are going to lose drivel. Get some new material. Frankly, you bore the heck out of all of us.”

    So yep I put it up and yep I called you out. And I stand by it. That’s why I LMS (fka Lou) called you out. A lot of people out here waited a long time, maybe even longer than you for the Cup and WEATHERED the dark ages too. That doesn’t mean we aren’t pissed off. But I don’t see too many of them saying the season is over, like you regularly do.

    Don’t see an excuse in this statement but hey, if you see one, go with it.

    “Hawks are having a tough year. Deal with it. We won the Cup, we are injured and depleted, and we are stocked for years to come. Yeah, i’ll take an off year for a the next 10. As will most of the true fans out here and we won’t bitch about how sucky they are. “

    Last time I checked, last year we had 4 solid lines and 3 pairs on a cohesive team of hockey players that played together for 3 years. Didn’t we lose two entire lines of contributors? This year, this team, we aren’t even close to that. Completely different teams. I would hope you see that. Yugo’s and Mustangs both go 0 to 60. You figure out which team is which.

    So the omniscient true fan, smart like you, would know that injuries on a team with less depth have more impact. Injuries happen but when you have experienced depth, they have less impact. Show me how either injuries or depth aren’t impacting us. My God, we played Scott and Hendry on the same 4th line.

    Last year, I don’t recollect being out Kane and Hossa at the same time. Maybe I missed those games. So, how were we more crippled, especially at forward last year?????

    Oh, and Huet, the complete sieve that he was, still had 26 wins last year so how much did that really weigh us down??? 26 wins – same as Niemi. And in the rafters we have this banner that says 2010 Stanley Cup Champions. So Huet is relevant how?

    Thanks for pointing out your facts. Apples and oranges are both fruits. 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 are both Blackhawks teams. You figure out the meaning.

    Have at it, I Have a game to watch.

  29. Cam says:

    Wow, you called me out. Not only are you a superfan, you’re some kind of an internet tough guy as well.

    “saying the season is over, like you regularly do.”

    The problem is I have never said it. You simply made it up to bolster your non-existent point about being a superior fan.

    But for all your bragging, you somehow don’t realize that Huet likely cost the team a dozen points last year. Nor do you understand that I brought that up to show how the Blackhawks prevailed under tough(er) circumstances last season after you went the excuses route.

    The only thing irrelevant here is bringing up last year’s championship. That has nothing to do with the current team. Now, if you and others want to forget the current season and reminisce about the last one, we can do that. But I’d rather focus on the problems this team is having.

  30. LMS says:

    Yep, I made it all up to impress Jodi Foster. I am delusion and boosting my own internet aura. I am trying to steal the many fans you have here that agreed with you.

    I am sorry I misinterpretted your theme, shame on me. All of your posts indicate the Hawks will win the Cup and you never said they won’t make the playoffs. My mistake. It will never happen again.

    And yes, this might be the dumbest f-ing thing I have ever read on the fifth.

    “But for all your bragging, you somehow don’t realize that Huet likely cost the team a dozen points last year. Nor do you understand that I brought that up to show how the Blackhawks prevailed under tough(er) circumstances last season after you went the excuses route.”

    I forgot Huet with 32 wins would have won us the Cup faster. Hell Vancouver wouldn’t have come to town at all. And the tremendous adversity we had last year and tough circumstances we faced are too numerous to to describe. Yet we somehow managed to win the Cup despite the uphill climb. Get freaking real, last year was a cake walk compared to the challenges of this year.

    I am done feeding the troll. You are worth no further comment. I am insulting my own intelligence by doing so

  31. Cam says:

    Going by your posts, you have little intelligence to spare, pal.

    “All of your posts indicate the Hawks will win the Cup and you never said they won’t make the playoffs.”

    So if I just say the Blackhawks will win the Cup this year, I will pass your true fan test and maybe reach your high level of intellectual adroitness.

    Course, that would be a ridiculous assertion at the moment, but you seem to love those.

    Your inability to understand how bad Huet was, despite his win total, is stunning. You have to be the only Hawks fan who saw something different last year. But hey, it’s probably due to your hockey acumen.

    Incidentally, Chicago is 14-14 when Kane plays and 11-10 when Hossa plays. So, you’re right, the team was rolling with them in the lineup.

    Keep kicking those straw men though.

  32. Marts says:

    That 4 minuter on Hendry was a tough pill to swallow.

    I think my issue with your posts Cam is that they are very much of the chicken little variety. Are they frustrating to watch right now? Hell yes, my bent dinner fork can attest to that. Do they have good talent in place? Yes. Is some of that talent buried up their own asses? Yes. For me the bottom line is that if could follow and support Alexei Zhamnov for a few years (anybody remember that joke of a series against the Blues??) then I sure as hell can support this years team.

  33. Cam says:

    Marts,

    I may be guilty of too much venting, but I support the team. If I didn’t care, I wouldn’t be venting at all. I’m not one of those who can relax because they won last year. This team and it’s fan base deserves some sustained success and they should’ve had the parts to do so.

    This team is in trouble and there seems, to me anyway, to be little sense of urgency.

  34. Cam says:

    I should add that I really do not want the Blackhawks to become the 2nd champ in 40 years to miss the playoffs. So, yes, I’m irritated right now.

  35. LMS says:

    Pal,

    I’ll start with these direct quotes, “Going by your posts, you have little intelligence to spare, pal.” “All of your posts indicate the Hawks will win the Cup and you never said they won’t make the playoffs.” Satire is a literary form, you do know what this is right. You have read Shakespeare????

    Yes, I have little intelligence, yet this dumbass had people agree with him and you seemed to argue with just about everyone, got told to stop the rants, and the moderator called you pessimistic. Maybe the problem isn’t me… Maybe it’s the man in the mirror and his literary style. But I am not smart enough to see that when I read it.

    But please, please, please practice what you preach.

    “If you’re going to disagree with me, fine. But putting theories in my mouth is a bit insulting.”

    So you calling me out by saying “Your inability to understand how bad Huet was, despite his win total, is stunning. You have to be the only Hawks fan who saw something different last year. But hey, it’s probably due to your hockey acumen.”

    Having said this, I will again quote myself, “Oh, and Huet, the complete sieve that he was, still had 26 wins last year so how much did that really weigh us down???” Which part of sieve was missed? You do know what that word means right? You are much smarter than my limited intelligence and high level of intellectual whateverness, so you had to pick up on that.

    Maybe that word isn’t used in circles of people with your intellectual adoitness(i prefer the term cognitive supremacy but hey to each his own). It means a goalie with a five hole the size of lower wacker, no confidence after any goal, nervous, beachballs let in from the boards from Stars named Toby (and you can look that up) and an .895 save percentage sucks big ass. But, 26 wins still led to points which led to the playoffs which led to the Cup which led to Huet getting his name on it. So maybe I got it and you didn’t pick it up?

    I guess, you are putting theories in my mouth unless you didn’t understand the word sieve. Maybe I should be offended. But I am probably to stupid to be offended b/c i don’t know shit about hockey.

    And last year the adversity we faced was nothing compared to this. We were relatively injury free, had a strong roster top to bottom, and had 5 legit d men as scary as Sopel was he was a legit 5. Just like we have this year, a dream team top to bottom. I mean John Scott and Hendry >>>> Burish and Eager on the 4th line. Every hockey guy knows that.

    And we are a lot worse when they are not playing. now, aren’t we? 3 in a row now and not looking too good. So this would be the appropriate time to insert your quote from a previous thread about we might be the whatever team in the last whatever years to not make the playoffs. More of that positive spin you purvey.

    So Cam, I am going to throw down my sword, turn off my steriod pump, and let you have the last word. I could have just walked away but that’s not my style. You do what you gotta do. I am now again bored

    But, at the same time, to all the other folks out here, I apoligize for you reading this fodder. i picked a fight in hopes to… I am going to walk away now. I will post nothing else nor will I waste any more of the moderators time on this fine board.

    Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

  36. LMS says:

    Okay, I lied but I am now Proud to have Cam out here

    “Marts,

    I may be guilty of too much venting, but I support the team. If I didn’t care, I wouldn’t be venting at all. I’m not one of those who can relax because they won last year. This team and it’s fan base deserves some sustained success and they should’ve had the parts to do so.

    This team is in trouble and there seems, to me anyway, to be little sense of urgency.”

    YOU ARE COMMITTED AND WELL SAID. Now you get where i was coming from and why I called you out It wasn’t about the what it was about the how.

    And you may have one off year to have a dynasty run. It does suck but we will fine (said like Dave Wannstedt)

    No hard feelings, I enjoyed out verbal banter

  37. Cam says:

    I have no idea what the point of your first paragraph is. I doubt you do either.

    Nor do I care who agrees with you, though you seem to think you get points for it. The moderator thinks I’m pessimistic. Well la de da. Who wouldn’t be optimistic based on what we’ve seen from the team thus far? My bad.

    And knock off the victimhood pap. You went after me first with the low-brow “I’m a REAL fan” BS.

    *

    “Which part of sieve was missed?”

    You say he was a sieve, but don’t like that I said he cost the team plenty of points. You asked how much he weighed the team down, I answered.

    The Hawks were great enough to overcome their obstacles–injuries, Huet–to have a great regular season and then win a Cup without Huet participating. This is the point I made when you used their supposed handicaps this year as an excuse.

  38. Cam says:

    The last post was made prior to any truce being called. Just for the record.

    But we’re over the 30 mark. What’s one more?

    .

    Last year, the Hawks certainly had their share of obstacles to overcome. Hossa missed the first 25 games, Bolland basically missed the whole season considering how bad he was while playing hurt, Toews, Seabrook and Versteeg missed 13 games between them, and then Campbell missed 14 games while Johnsson was gone. The Hawks were forced to stick Byfuglien on defense. Huet was arguably the 2nd worst starting goalie in the NHL. Niemi was an inconsistent rookie which was still an upgrade.

    This year’s issues have more to do with the roster in general and a complete inability of finding ways of winnings games than anything else.

  39. LMS says:

    Now we are on the same page. I believe you are a good Hawks fan. You posted your reply to Marts while I was writing my response and yes, I knew what I was writing and why I put it there. I knew exactly what I was saying pretty much in everything I wrote. Your insulting my intelligence pissed me off so i mocked you through and through by playing the dumb guy adn sticking it to you. Kind of like me calling out your Hawks loyalty pissed you off.

    I apologize for insuating i am a better Hawk fan than you. And yes I challenged your committment. Too many band wagon blogger exist. This is a real Hawks site with real Hawks fans. And we are all pissed

    As for Huet, we won in spite of him. I’ll call that a good thing.

    All valid points. The very strength to overcome last year we don’t have this year. We have huge problems on a weaker roster with key injuries. Last year we had a deeper team that could overcome everything. What is scary is how much I miss Sopel now. We had games missed here and there but had depth to cover it. Now we don’t

    Happy blogging, and keep it real!

  40. Cam says:

    Nice of you to say, LMA. I was more snippy than I should’ve been and took things too personally. I apologize too.

    I have a tendency to show my frustration with the Hawks in my posts and understand that can rub some the wrong way. I don’t handle losing well, at least not when the team is or should be good.

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